Perez reveals telling 'you're going to use them all' verdict to Horner

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Kada Sárközi joined GPblog as an editor ahead of the 2023 Formula 1 season. He graduated with a BA in Sports Journalism in the UK and has covered Grands Prix and other F1 events live.
Sergio Perez shared his conversation with former Red Bull Racing team boss Christian Horner after he was replaced by Liam Lawson.
"I told him, 'Well, you're going to use them all,' and he said, 'Yes, I know.'"- Sergio Perez
Ahead of the 2025 season, Red Bull Racing decided to let Sergio Perez go, and promote Liam Lawson as Max Verstappen's teammate.
After two rounds, the Austrians made another change, swapping out Lawson for Yuki Tsunoda. For 2026, Isack Hadjar will be elevated to the senior team.
Speaking on the Cracks Podcast, 'Checo' explained the conversation he had with now former team principal Horner when he was informed of the decision.
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"I asked him, 'What are you going to do when it doesn’t work out with Liam (Lawson)?’
"He replied, 'Well, there's Yuki (Tsunoda).'
"I then asked, 'What are you going to do when it doesn't work out with Yuki?'
"He said, 'We don’t have many drivers.'
"I told him, 'Well, you're going to use them all,' and he said, 'Yes, I know.'"

Sergio Perez with Red Bull - Photo: Race Pictures
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The Mexican driver also shared that at the start, he was told by Horner that they are only running two cars because they had to.
According to 'Checo', at the Austrian team, everything was a problem. He said: "If I was faster, it was a problem, it created a very tense atmosphere; if I was slower than Max, it was a problem."
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